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Old 05-31-2009, 12:51 PM   #1
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Exclamation All of these wont do a world of good if you get shot!!!!





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Old 06-03-2009, 10:02 AM   #2
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lol, I keep super glue around, I use it way more than Band Aids. Band Aids don't like to stay on in the NC heat.
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Old 06-03-2009, 04:48 PM   #3
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I keep "Steri-Strips" in the house/garage & and in the junkyard tool box. They have been REAL handy and in a bad situation when you are far away from a hospital or someone that can stitch you up. I keep them in my drawer at work also, and everyone "borrows" them all the time. They are not cheap, but better than duct-tape & I don't have to wait for the "super glue" to dry on a fresh cut.

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Old 06-03-2009, 04:49 PM   #4
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Oh yea, zman........they will stay on in extreme heat/cold just make sure the surface is kind of clean.
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Old 06-06-2009, 09:11 AM   #5
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I keep a roll of Steri strip tape.
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Old 06-06-2009, 10:02 AM   #6
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Steri strips are awesome for a bad cut. They still wouldn't be too helpful if you get shot. I've used them a bunch of times instead of getting stiches.
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Old 06-06-2009, 05:06 PM   #7
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Steri strips are awesome for a bad cut. They still wouldn't be too helpful if you get shot. I've used them a bunch of times instead of getting stiches.

Yup, same here. riding mountainbike tends to give you plenty chance to try em!

BTW John, you can not believe the trail system(s) we are building up here! You dont have anything left over from the old shop do you? Truing stands, parts (XT thubshifters?)
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Old 06-13-2009, 11:31 PM   #8
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I got the NexCare spray on bandage (no sting formula) and it actually works pretty well. Good for wide abrasions.
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Old 06-13-2009, 11:41 PM   #9
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If you get shot, you have 8 fingers and 2 thumbs. Unless you get shot with a .50cal or a 12 guage(either case nothing will help you), you've got at least 2 digits that will fit the hole. Worked for the Little Dutch Boy.

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Old 06-13-2009, 11:53 PM   #10
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yeah, but that hurts...alot
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Old 06-14-2009, 12:05 AM   #11
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Only until the bleeding stops. And we all know the bleeding stops eventually. One way or another.....
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Old 06-14-2009, 02:03 PM   #12
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Quik Clot, or a variation.

Fairly small size to fit in a first aid kit.

My sons carry several when they go on their hunting trips.

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Old 06-15-2009, 08:44 AM   #13
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I've heard Kotex works well for plugging gunshot wounds.

...don't ever want to find out.
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:03 AM   #14
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I don't know about Kotex. However, We were taught to carry small tampons in a small survival kit because of their size and their intended purpose is to stop bleeding and they expand. Now if you use tampons to plug a bullet hole, try to stay away from ones that come with the applicator.
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Old 11-01-2009, 06:23 PM   #15
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As a general rule, you don't want to stick anything into a wound. And, depending on the caliber of the firearm, even a small tampon would probably be too large for most common entry holes left by anything smaller than .45 and even that might be stretching it(Literally). You wouldn't want to add insult to injury by jamming a tampon into a bullet wound. If you are searching the feminine hygiene isle for traumatic wound dressing, go with unscented sanitary pads. Preferably the ones marked for heavy flow.


PS. If you ever do use one, the tape on the one side is not to be stuck to the person........Don't even pull the paper off the tape side. Leave it alone.
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Old 07-11-2010, 12:42 PM   #16
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Hi, I am brand new here and came across this thread and felt compelled to reply. My credentials: I work for a large California Sheriff's office as a Tactical Medic assigned to their SWAT team.

Might I make a few suggestions on what to carry for immediate response to a gunshot:

First, ask yourself "might I actually get shot?" and if so, "am I willing to prepare myself to deal with it?". In todays modern society we all might get shot by some random nut running loose, but does it make sense for a stay at home mom to prepare herself to be shot the same way a soldier does? I think not, but that could open a big debate.

Let's fast forward and say YES, you stand a good chance of being shot AND you want to be ready to deal with it in the field until you can get to the E.R.

Prepare your self with:

Training: Here's a subject that can run it's own thread so i'll let it alone.

Get your Gear together.
Tourniquet. I carry at least two C-A-T (Combat Application Tourniquet) Tourniquets while working. Any gunshot to an extremity (arm or leg) immediately gets a C-A-T. C-A-Ts are simple and proven. There are many companies making tourniquets but studies by the U.S. military have proven them the best. Not the cheapest, but the best.
Israeli Trauma Bandage A heavy absorbant pad attatched to a Ace type elastic bandage. There is also a leverage bar cleverly attatched so you can really cinch down on it and really provide that pressure you may need. Buy one extra to open up and practice with before you need it. It's simple and easy to use, but when you need it is not the time to see it for the first time. The plastic bag it comes in works as a good improvised chest seal with tree pieces of tape. I carry at least two, and every operator carries one of their own.
Asherman Chest Seal Any penetration to the chest presents the likelihood of a collapsed lung. Penetrating wounds (like gun shots) to the chest need to be sealed. The Asherman is the tool of choice in the field today. Wipe the wound, peel and stick, very easy to apply. How many to carry? Remember there's always an entrance wound, usually an exit wound and many people believe "anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice". Real answer: It depends upon your level of threat and your departments budget.
Gloves: Absolutely! Besides the obvious reasons, a gloved hand works as temporary chest seal until the Asherman is placed.
NPA, (Nasal Pharyngeal Airway): Inserted when airway may be compromised. I won't say any more because proper application requires training, skills and should not be attempted without it.
"Combat Shears": You have to see what you are working on. You need to cut the clothing away to see the wound site right away. You need the best shears available. I carry at least one in each of my bags and one my medical leg pouch. People always ask me where I get my "Tactical Black Combat Shears" and I point them here: http://countycomm.com/premiumshears.htm
Quick Clot Combat Gauze: I carry the gauze in my immediate care kit and a wide assortment of their other products in my bags. The product is good but it isn't the magic pill many think it is. Warning: There is a lot of the original granular product that was sold to the military floating around on Ebay. There were problems with the original formula causing burns and the granular product being difficult to use. Buy/get fresh current product.

These are the supplies I carry for immediate gunshot care. Did I miss anything?
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